Wednesday, July 13, 2011

God Bless Richard Dawkins

Any thinking man would side with him in this controversy reported on by Scott Locklin — Twilight of the Skeptics. "What was Dawkins’s blasphemy—that the world doesn’t revolve around some creepy attention-whoring nerd girl’s mild social discomforts? Apparently it does."

The author notes that "his rhetorical skills were not up to the task of arguing with fellow atheists" and that a leading coreligionist now "figures Dawkins is kaput unless he repents and begs forgiveness." Mr. Locklin notes, "The fact that Dawkins is being undermined by fellow hater-atheists is delicately ironic." And really funny, too.

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Blogger Enbrethiliel said...


After spending more time than I'd like to admit lurking in the "atheosphere" (Nice name, actually) to get to the root of this conflict, I really can't side with anyone.

Skepchick's issue was not that she was propositioned by some creepy guy who may or may not have seen her provocative pictures, but that she was propositioned during a conference for skeptics in which she had just given a talk about women skeptics not wanting to go to such conventions because so many men skeptics proposition them. (ROFLMAO!) So there was a whole level of meaning Dawkins missed out on--unless, of course, he was calling her out for complaining at all. Because women like Skepchick only have #firstworldproblems, you know. =P

What's really hilarious, though, are the other reactions to Skepchick's vlog from other atheists--especially since there seems to be a split between sex lines. Ever hear of the term "Schrodinger's rapist," Joshua? Apparently, that's what every man is, until proven otherwise. And when some male commenters on Skepchick's blog argued that women thinking of all men this way is actually sexist, in the way that a white person thinking every black person is "Schrodinger's mugger" would be racist, Skepchick herself came up with an analogy about a white person "propositioning" a black person by inviting him to a private fried chicken dinner. (!!!)

And then there's the "rape schedule." All women have a "rape schedule." And any man who violates the "rape schedule" by being with a woman in the wrong place, at the wrong time--no matter how innocent his intentions or how clueless he is of that particular woman's "rape schedule"--gets to be "Schrodinger's rapist."

You can't make this stuff up.

PS -- Scott Locklin is totally right when he suggests that low attendance from women at skeptic conventions has less to do with these encounters than with women not being "interested in a bunch of nerds kvetching about credulous religious people because they're too busy checking their horoscopes." LOL!!!

PPS -- In all fairness to atheists, I'm sure they find religious flame wars as mind-numbingly entertaining as I find their skeptical ones.

4:53 AM  
Blogger Jonathan Wolfe said...

At least the religious flame wars tend to be fighting over religious details, not on the horrors of some dude giving the church lady a flower.

10:29 AM  
Blogger Enbrethiliel said...


But to the skeptics--especially those who are also feminists--some dude giving a lady a flower is a religious detail.

Or the equivalent of one. It just looks ridiculous to those on the outside.

And if you give me time, I probably will be able to find you a completely ridiculous religious flame war.

1:34 AM  
Blogger Jonathan Wolfe said...

I'm sure you can. I've seen religious flame wars over whether women ought to wear skirts and men hats. However, none of these debates have ever reached the levels of "OMG! PUBLIC OUTRAGE!" Not even the most mendacious "King" James White clones can match PZ Myers and skeptic girl.

7:08 PM  
Blogger The Western Confucian said...

Yeah, even the Sola Skirtura debate at its most heated never produced the anathemas we are seeing from Skepchick and her minions.

Most Catholics, even at their most annoying, don't seem to lose their sense of humor, as the above link shows. However, many converts, and I am one, do.

Maybe retaining a Chestertonian sense of humor is the sign of true conversion. After all, what could be funnier than the Catholic Church? She has me in stitches almost all the time.

9:44 PM  

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