Wednesday, March 2, 2011

Free Vermont

Thomas H. Naylor with the reminder "that on 4 March 1791 the First Vermont Republic, the only American republic which truly invented itself, entered immortality and became the fourteenth state of the American empire" — Eulogy for the First Vermont Republic.

The author ponders, "Is it possible that the Green Mountain state might actually help save America from itself and help save the rest of the world from America by seceding from the Union and leading the nation into peaceful disunion?"

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Blogger Mark in Spokane said...

Assuming, of course, that Vermont would be a viable independent country, something that is doubtful. The original Vermont Republic collapsed -- it entered the Union only because its only other option was to be absorbed into the British Empire through Canada. I imagine that much the same would happen again if that state sought to go it alone...

There is a reason for the Union, after all -- it was to make a single viable nation out of a group of squabbling little states that were, on their own, non-viable. Even states that were late to ratification of the current Constitution (like North Carolina) understood this.

2:16 AM  
Blogger Mark in Spokane said...

Not a viable independent state:

Canada or Union!

5:30 AM  
Blogger The Western Confucian said...

The Republic of Cascadia? You, after all, are a potential Cascadian.

9:02 AM  
Blogger Mark in Spokane said...

Ha! The dream of a few old hippies and marijuana growers, confined mostly to the lefty suburbs of Seattle and Portland. I can assure you that eastern Washington State would, if Cascadia ever somehow managed to come to pass, would pull a West Virginia and leave such a pretended republic to cleave close to the Union.

Now, there is a move for eastern Washington to become its own state -- the State of Lincoln. That's an idea that I support wholeheartedly!

Eastern Washington has a lot more in common with Idaho and western Montana than it does with the coast. And I say that as someone who grew up on the coast, just north of Seattle, in the San Juan Islands.


12:10 PM  
Blogger Mark in Spokane said...

If interested, here is Wikipedia article about the proposed State of Lincoln in eastern Washington and northern Idaho:

I would imagine that the capital would be here in Spokane -- it would be the largest city and close to the geographic midpoint of the new state.

1:31 PM  
Blogger The Western Confucian said...

Fellow Western New Yorker Bill Kauffman's latest book, on secession, Bye Bye, Miss American Empire: Neighborhood Patriots, Backcountry Rebels, and their Underdog Crusades to Redraw America's Political Map, is more simpático to those movements that puch to break up states rather than the Union.

2:27 AM  
Blogger Mark in Spokane said...

I think that there is a very strong case to be made that most of the states we have now are too big and too geographically separate to really be governable. A big part of California's problems, right now, is caused by the fact that the state is simply too damned big, and not just in terms of "big government" big, but just in terms of actual size & population. California really should be cut up into at least 3 and more likely 4 separate states.

That's the key to local government -- keeping the government as local as possible. A state with 30-40 million people in it isn't a local government in any meaningful sense. That's at least 10 times the population of the entire United States during the Revolutionary period!

4:12 AM  
Blogger love the girls said...

California should be a single independent country at the very least. Perhaps two, or four.

Which would in turn pave the way for my homeland going independent.

Go California, and take Colorado with you.

6:29 AM  

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