Monday, August 9, 2010

Three Score and Five Years Ago Today

"At 11:02 AM, two-thirds of Japan's Catholics were annihilated; ... more Japanese Christians were slaughtered than had been martyred in four centuries of brutal persecution" — The Holy City of Nagasaki.

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Blogger Bad Catholic said...

All war is due to sin. In World War II the Devil was on high holiday.

However, if I were one of the young American soldiers who was going to have to invade the home islands of Japan where McArthur estimated that he would suffer 100,000 casualties in the initial attack, I would be grateful that President Truman made the decision to drop the bombs.

Also, let's not forget that it was the stubborness of the Japanese high command in the face of certain defeat which caused the atomic bomb attacks to be necessary.

The poor and innocent are always the ones who suffer for the sins and arrogance of the rich and powerful. Over last two thousand years, Christ has been crucified again and again and again . . .

9:43 AM  
Blogger The Western Confucian said...

"In World War II the Devil was on high holiday." Weel said. Your last paragraph is also spot-on.

Your second paragraph, however, hints at consequentialism, i.e. moral relativism, and even solipsism. Sure, we'd all be grateful, but that does not make the matter right.

Regarding your assertion about "the stubborness of the Japanese high command in the face of certain defeat," the Japanese had since April been sending out surrender feelers. They just wanted to keep their Emperor safe, which they were allowed to do in the end.

11:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Had the US not forcibly opened Japan thanks to Perry, then repeatedly insult Japan from the Russo-Japanese treaty to immigration quotas to the Washington Naval Treaty, then top it off with an embargo even though Brown Brothers Harriman was dealing with the Nazis right up to (and likely after) the US went to war against Germany - perhaps all of this could have been avoided.

11:51 AM  
Blogger Faith said...

My family would agree with Bad Catholic. Thanks to the bomb, our Daddy came home safely.
We were at war, you know.

8:06 PM  
Blogger love the girls said...

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11:09 PM  
Blogger love the girls said...

Faith writes : "Thanks to the bomb, our Daddy came home safely."

The same with mine. But how we should consider the killing of women and children so that our fathers did come home is the issue at hand.

Good often does come out of evil, but that doesn't of itself allow for the committing of evil.

Be glad your father came home, and glad for your children who wouldn't exist if he had not come home. But don't be glad for the evil, nor attempt to justify the evil.

11:18 PM  
Blogger Stephen said...

Joshua, unfortunately it appears that your article at Spero Forum cuts off mid-stream. Do you have a link to the complete version?

11:20 PM  
Blogger The Western Confucian said...

Stephen, some kind soul posted here -- Catholic Victims of Nagasaki.

l.t.g., well said.

Faith, both my grandefathers came home alive, Deo gratias. I thank God, not the a-bomb. We were indoctrinated that it was the only way to avoid an invasion. Dwight David Eisenhower, closer to then events than you or me, thought differently:

"Japan was at the moment seeking some way to surrender with minimum loss of 'face'. It wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing."

11:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank God not only were innocent women and children killed but also that they happened to be 2/3 of Japan's Catholics! /end sarcasm

You guys disgust me -- Thank goodness Western Confucian posted this less we forget!

Moreover, is it a mere coincidence that they happened to be 2/3 of Japan's Catholics?

I think not.

1:27 PM  
Blogger The Western Confucian said...

Anon, the above comments were tame compared to the guy who accused me of wanting him dead, personally, because his grandfather has been in the service at the time. Both of mine were as well, so I must be secretely wishing that I had bever been born.

I also think it was not a coincidence, given Truman's Freemasonry.

10:26 PM  

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