Monday, August 16, 2010

President John McCain?

"If John McCain had been elected President, would we be out of Afghanistan by now?" asks Steve Sailer — The Irony of Victory. Mr. Sailer continues:
    After all, McCain would have been much better situated politically than Obama to declare, "Nobody loves the smell of napalm in the morning more than John McCain, but even I recognize this is an increasingly pointless war, so we're outta there."

    In general, it's easier for a President to betray his base than to overcome his opposition, so often people wind up with the opposite of what they thought they voted for.

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Blogger Mark in Spokane said...

It was Eisenhower, after all, who managed to end the Korean War and who warned us of the "military-industrial complex."

1:33 AM  
Blogger The Western Confucian said...

Yep. I like Ike.

2:01 AM  
Blogger love the girls said...

"If John McCain had been elected President, would we be out of Afghanistan by now?"

No. Any man who can sing "bomb bomb Iran" could only be expected to send the US ever deeper into war. Obama is a fool, but McCain was a mad man.

As for the principle that it's generally easier to betray ones base than overcome the opposition : "shit runs downhill"

4:40 AM  
Blogger Mark in Spokane said...


I think that the idea that McCain was/is crazy is something that really needs to be addressed. I think that McCain has difficulty controlling his emotions -- as the father's character in Meet the Parents (played so well by Robert DeNiro) quipped, "19 months in a Vietnamese prison will do that do you." McCain spent years as a POW, was brutally tortured and kept in confinement conditions that under any sane understanding of the term grossly violated his human rights. As he himself has said, that experience "broke" him. But that doesn't make him "mad." It makes him human.

McCain was not my first pick for the presidency, but I remain convinced that he would have served honorably in the job, and would have been an incomparable improvement to our current president. I think he would have had both the guts and yes the temperament to stand up to the military and do what needs to be done in terms of our overseas military commitments. And I think he would have had the credibility to sell that both to Congress and the American people. Obama, whatever his virtues, has not demonstrated that level of credibility.

10:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John McCain's daddy, much more of a man than he was, was the man who gave the order for the jets NOT to defend the USS Liberty, but rather return to their carriers, while it was under attack by the Israelis.

This really was not the sort of family we needed at 1600 Penn while the Iran thingie goes down.

12:32 AM  
Blogger Mark in Spokane said...

I try to follow a very simple rule in life: I don't judge people for the sins of their parents.

We aren't electing a family to occupy the White House -- one of the problems with the Kennedy, Bush, and Clinton phenomenon in politics is that we are sprouting little dynasties in our political system, a very bad idea. When we vote for office, we aren't enshrining a family into a position -- there are no "family seats" in the Senate (much to the Kennedy's dismay), there is no dynastic claim to the White House. We are electing individual men and women to serve. That McCain's father may have done something wrong is no stain to the son.

1:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Your comment makes no sense at all.

Holding the sins of a candidate's protectors against their protege running for high office is basic common sense. McCain would never have had the career he did without his daddy, and everyone knows it.

Pls refudiate such sophistry.

4:45 AM  
Blogger setnaffa said...

anonymous cowards aside, no one else could have had the unifying effect of Obama in destabilizing the dhimmicrat regime and (as we shall see) restoring America values to the US Congress.

Bush/Clinton/Clinton/Bush//Bush/Obama is really a sad followup to Reagan; but then, we all knew it would be...

1:02 AM  

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