Saturday, June 26, 2010

Homosexuality Is a Disorder, Not an Identity

"A Lutheran pastor ardently critical of allowing gays into the clergy is on leave from his Minneapolis church after a gay magazine reported his attendance at a support group for men struggling with same-sex attraction" — Minn. pastor likely to keep job despite gay report.

"The fact that he said one thing publicly, and privately he's a homosexual — that's somewhat inconsistent," said the magazine's president. "This company has a policy not to out people. The one exception is a public figure who says one thing and does another."

But what did he do? A fellow pastor noted that when asked about the article he "simply said he indeed has been attending this Christian group, both going there and being honest about temptations he has, and is being held accountable so he never would do anything with that temptation." The "Christian group" in question is "Faith in Action, ... the Minnesota affiliate of the Catholic Church's Courage program, described on its website as a 'spiritual support system which would assist men and women with same-sex attractions in living chaste lives in fellowship, truth and love.'"

"I think anybody who appreciates confidential support groups would just be aghast at what they did," said administrator Father James Livingston said. "It's one thing to be opposed politically to someone; it's another thing to worm your way into a group like that and expose the secrets of the group."

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Blogger Jonathan Wolfe said...

I don't get it. This pastor seems to be in one of the best positions to be critical of allowing openly homosexual people in the clergy because he himself struggles against the temptations.

I don't follow the gay magazine's logic at all.

12:14 AM  
Blogger Terry Nelson said...

I have to agree with Jonathan's angle on this story - "The pastor ssems to be in the best position to be critical of openly homosexuals in the clergy."

11:26 PM  
Blogger Steve Hayes said...

The report sounds thoroughly garbled, which I suppose is what one can expect in a society where communication is by slogans and soundbites rather than reasonable discourse.

It's like "gay marriage". The Church has never forbidden gay marriage. Gay people as free to marry as anyone else, though they might not have the inclination to do so. The result might be similar to what is described in the limerick:

There was a young queer of Khartoum
Who took a lesbian up to his room
They argued all night
Over who had the right
To do what, and with what, and to whom.

3:58 PM  
Blogger The Western Confucian said...

Nice limerick, by the way.

5:59 PM  
Blogger Jonathan Wolfe said...

I think Steve means the same thing Arnold Schwarzenegger meant when he said that there is no problem with a gay man getting married, as long as he marries a woman.

He has a point. By calling what the gays want gay "marriage", we are ceding them a portion of the argument. The Church has never forbidden gay "marriage" because She does not consider what the gays want as anything remotely close to marriage. If any, gay "marriage" is fine, as long as they marry someone of the opposite sex.

8:46 PM  
Blogger The Western Confucian said...

Mr. Wolfe, thanks for clarifying Deacon Hayes' comments. I've removed my questions for him.

11:46 PM  

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